tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post6091704817012131785..comments2024-03-22T14:22:44.352+00:00Comments on Vampifan's World of the Undead: GURPS ZombiesVampifanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11318241813130102121noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-68192157671573135412020-05-29T16:57:14.279+01:002020-05-29T16:57:14.279+01:00Are you tired of being human, having talented brai...Are you tired of being human, having talented brain turning to a vampire in a good posture in ten minutes, Do you want to have power and influence over others, To be charming and desirable, To have wealth, health, without delaying in a good human posture and becoming an immortal? If yes, these your chance. 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Vampifanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11318241813130102121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-82488815534082725832014-07-05T01:22:48.722+01:002014-07-05T01:22:48.722+01:00I'll be following this. I used to play a lot o...I'll be following this. I used to play a lot of GURPS, but am now a solo-gamer more often than not. I'm curious as to how you will make this work. Thanks for putting it out there!Ironmonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02690744323192668919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-50845052993868950782014-07-03T10:25:22.156+01:002014-07-03T10:25:22.156+01:00There is indeed, much to admire about this well-wr...There is indeed, much to admire about this well-written supplement, Adam. I can see myself making the transition from ATZ to GURPS, but it's going to take some time.Vampifanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11318241813130102121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-162171424196615122014-07-03T09:58:23.388+01:002014-07-03T09:58:23.388+01:00I have to admit Bryan I took more than a passing i...I have to admit Bryan I took more than a passing interest when we got this in store. I 'feels' like an old school expansion but that's a good thing and it's definitely got some great and well thought out elelments. ATZ is RPG lite and with a little thought, I think a transition into a more traditional RPG wouldn't be too difficult.Zombie Adhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01927366159778203819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-3296641681922374422014-07-03T05:47:20.856+01:002014-07-03T05:47:20.856+01:00This is so true, Robert. They really are a treasur...This is so true, Robert. They really are a treasure trove of great ideas.Vampifanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11318241813130102121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-3920410546785963352014-07-03T05:46:24.407+01:002014-07-03T05:46:24.407+01:00I don't think that mixing the two rules sets w...I don't think that mixing the two rules sets would work too well, Mathyoo. I'd much rather concentrate on one than cobble up a set of hybrid rules.<br />The beauty of zombie gaming is that it lends itself to solo play far better than any other genre I can think of. Playing GURPS Zombies as a solo game should work very well. The more I think about it the more I want to do it. Thanks for your input, Mathyoo.Vampifanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11318241813130102121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-40088558719543205702014-07-03T02:48:27.287+01:002014-07-03T02:48:27.287+01:00GURPS books are always a great read even once you&...GURPS books are always a great read even once you've stop playing RPGs as I have.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04802420094217299660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-62134171255807521812014-07-02T23:06:42.132+01:002014-07-02T23:06:42.132+01:00What if you would continue playing with ATZ-FFO ru...What if you would continue playing with ATZ-FFO rule set and would only take the bits that you really like from GURPS book? It looks like a treasure chest of ideas, so might as well use it as such.<br /><br />As for solo play, stop making excuses. Every single game can be played solo. Obviously people might "prefer" one side, but I found out there's nothing wrong with playing both sides of the game. Surely there's no surprises for the obvious reasons, but as you probably want to post an AAR after, playing yourself at least gives you chance to take it slowly and so on. But the rules really don't need any urgent tweaking in my opinion. Not that some changes aren't helpful, of course.Mathyoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11254075235438097742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-75237605862013920722014-07-02T22:41:48.661+01:002014-07-02T22:41:48.661+01:00Much as I like ATZ, I do miss the role playing ele...Much as I like ATZ, I do miss the role playing element of gaming. I like to see interaction between PCs and NPCs. ATZ does a very good job for a set of simple skirmish rules but to be honest, I do miss the complexity of GURPS.<br /><br />Regarding zombies costing negative points, you are indeed missing the point. Their points cost does not have to match that of the PCs. In GURPS it is wrong to assume that the good guys and the bad guys must have equal points values. Take four Hardened Veterans built on 150 points each, giving them a total of 600 points and pit them against a horde of 100 zombies with a points total of -35,100 and suddenly the odds are stacked against the humans. As in most books, films and games a typical zombie's strength lies in how many there are. More zombies equal a greater threat. By the way, not all zombie types cost negative points. For example, the Techno-Zombie known as Soldier X costs 242 points per zombie. Now they are scary!Vampifanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11318241813130102121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-64145969121605981322014-07-02T19:21:33.470+01:002014-07-02T19:21:33.470+01:00It does indeed sound as if there's a mass of d...It does indeed sound as if there's a mass of detail in here. I guess the question you have to ask yourself is what balance you want in your games between role-playing and skirmishes with miniatures. I realise that these are not distinct entities, but there are differences of emphasis. For myself, I like a more traditional wargame but with a few role-playing elements; ATZ provides that very well :-) . I'm less interested in gaming the dynamics of human interaction, whether within a party or between separate groups - and that's what role-playing does best, I think.<br /><br />By the way, if a B-movie ghoul costs *negative* 351 points then how is it possible to build a force to any positive points value? You'd need a zombie master and 3 assistants for *each* zombie, just to break even! I must be missing something here, I think :-) .Colgar6https://www.blogger.com/profile/07636662295301222390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-44249258903611808722014-07-02T16:39:48.247+01:002014-07-02T16:39:48.247+01:00Both AFMBE and GURPS are good choices, Dave, and b...Both AFMBE and GURPS are good choices, Dave, and both have a lot in common, especially in regard to character creation. Looking at this as objectively as I can I'd have to admit that there is little to choose between the two.Vampifanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11318241813130102121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-84971080190525913292014-07-02T16:13:08.888+01:002014-07-02T16:13:08.888+01:00I've been very curious about this book since I...I've been very curious about this book since I saw it on the shelves,<br />My current group are tired of DnD type games and have been toying with the idea of getting a zombie RPG. After your review of Outbreak Undead I was set on AFMBE (which seems harder to find now) but im definitely gonna look more into Gurps nowDave VanDamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10013241156656765396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-50331288351608570492014-07-02T16:09:58.125+01:002014-07-02T16:09:58.125+01:00When it comes to GURPS, Bob, I'm afraid my gla...When it comes to GURPS, Bob, I'm afraid my glasses are incredibly rose-tinted! I am biased and I'm happy to admit it. On the plus side, GURPS provides me with everything I need for a great gaming experience and that counts for a lott.<br /><br />Players vs players in Zombicide seems to be a natural progression for me. After all, it would be unrealistic to think there is only ever one group of survivors in the city where Zombicide is set.Vampifanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11318241813130102121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-55849123945371665082014-07-02T15:39:17.889+01:002014-07-02T15:39:17.889+01:00Sounds like you love GURPS. I'm sure you are m...Sounds like you love GURPS. I'm sure you are more than capable of adapting it for solo play. I just hope the glasses are not too rose tinted. I for one am interested what the player v's player and more RPG style of the new Zombicide is going to be like.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11616664689882136444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-76332958597846065062014-07-02T14:22:28.693+01:002014-07-02T14:22:28.693+01:00That's what I thought as well, Phil, but see m...That's what I thought as well, Phil, but see my reply to Joe above. Solo play using GURPS is a possibility.Vampifanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11318241813130102121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-29941416192167808322014-07-02T14:19:53.112+01:002014-07-02T14:19:53.112+01:00You make a very valid point about playing GURPS Zo...You make a very valid point about playing GURPS Zombies solo, Joe, and that is that zombies are very predictable creatures. Find live humans, eat live humans and infect live humans are all the actions required for most zombies. So adapting a GURPS Zombies campaign to solo play should not be as hard as adapting most other campaigns. You are right - i could overcome any difficulties. I know the system well enough to know what will work and what won't. Something both you and I would like to see in ATZ is more of a role playing element. GURPS can fulfil that role very easily.<br />You have convinced me enough that i should indeed pursue my dream. Now that I have all the tools at my disposal it would be unforgivable not to use them. Thanks, mate!Vampifanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11318241813130102121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-55459071866135831482014-07-02T13:59:05.901+01:002014-07-02T13:59:05.901+01:00Like yourself I'm a solo player. It does mean ...Like yourself I'm a solo player. It does mean you're restricted as to rulesPhil Curranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06828625218031670912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-62399223835487614392014-07-02T13:43:09.756+01:002014-07-02T13:43:09.756+01:00Having only encountered GURPS in its first incarna...Having only encountered GURPS in its first incarnation (1st edition) as a rpg, our group was very undecided about it, however those that like GURPS, REALLY liked it and I appreciate your enthusiasm for it.<br />As zombies tend to have fairly predictable choices of actions I would have thought it would be easier to play this solo against just zeds but I can see the problems with playing games other than survivours versus zombies. With your years of experience though I'm sure you could overcome any difficulties as you suggest.<br />Enthusiasm for a dream should be pursued ! Zabadakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05649765350412145174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-67094937725768306562014-07-02T11:54:40.469+01:002014-07-02T11:54:40.469+01:00I haven't played or seen "Rotworld" ...I haven't played or seen "Rotworld" Justin so i can't comment on that. I was very disappointed with "Outbreak: Undead" so this is FAR better. Although I have never played AFMBE I do have it and most of its supplements. It is a system I very much like as it reminds me of GURPS in many ways. I think if you like AFMBE you'll like GURPS Zombies and vice versa.Vampifanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11318241813130102121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-12314594328660368192014-07-02T11:50:44.390+01:002014-07-02T11:50:44.390+01:00I'm glad you liked the review, Clint. There ar...I'm glad you liked the review, Clint. There are just LOADS of good stuff in this supplement. i agree with you about the campaigns section.Vampifanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11318241813130102121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-11227060382641077212014-07-02T11:03:09.815+01:002014-07-02T11:03:09.815+01:00How does it compare to other zombie-centric rpgs, ...How does it compare to other zombie-centric rpgs, like, say, <i>Outbreak: Undead</i>, <i>Rotworld</i>, <i>All Flesh Must Be Eaten</i>?Justin S. Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14881276106170920830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8423998700545338590.post-23323621076625563542014-07-02T10:38:29.774+01:002014-07-02T10:38:29.774+01:00As an ex gurps player like yourself I was very int...As an ex gurps player like yourself I was very interested in your opinion of this supplement. I agree with you the rules can be as simple or complex as players and ref want. For me the best part of a gurps supplement is the campaigns section as they do tend to offer a variety including some you are unlikely to first think off as well as the typical ones. <br /><br />Thank you very much for this review very useful.Clinthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02351729764098750618noreply@blogger.com